Swan River Mob (WA, Australia) - 2013-09-22
Sailor 2 Second Peak (Kts)5 x 10 Second Average (Kts)1 Hour (Kts)Alpha Racing 500m (Kts)Nautical Mile (Kts)Distance Travelled (km)
Snides
32.54(D)
30.46(D)
8.86(D)
19.81(D)
22.39(D)
21.19(D)
Slowboat
37.176(D)
35.815(D)
20.285(D)
21.589(D)
28.395(D)
57.322(D)
Istaaack
35.9(D)
33.67(D)
15.92(D)
24.01(D)
27.98(D)
68.22(D)
25
Tim Stockton
Chris Adamson
Claude
Craig Mann
Recycle
Dan Engdahl
Whitey
Matthew Langer
JC
Stringer
Neil Daffen
Linds
Spock
Gav
Mick
SAM WILLIAMS
Lachy
Aiden
Aids
Average36.5434.7418.1022.8028.1962.77
Snides (28038km):
3872 days ago
1 categories

Melville Beach, WA, AU

Early start before the kids get up. 

Headed to Melville to test out a new (2nd) board. 

The first time I have ever bought a board specifically to suit a fin! 

Anyway conditions were nothing short of atrocious . 

30 to 5 knots and oncoming chop in the 3 to 4 footr range. 

Rrd 105 v5/evo4 6.4/cl34 and vector volt 36

Paddymac and lao arrived  as I packed up. 



Slowboat (47716km):
3872 days ago
5 categories

Melville 7.8m E5, Mistral 112, CLSL2-38. Gusty on and off stuff hard to get motivated to rig, and eventually settled for the biggest stuff I had in the car. Had some nice runs across the wind. Fin was smoking for its size. Finally got drilled in a 30kt rail squall... ugly ugly stuff trying to hang on before getting destroyed in a ball of spray.



Istaaack (4358km):
3872 days ago
3 categories

Melville Beach, WA, AU

 

2014 Isonic 107, Reflex 3 7.8, 90% Severne Carbon Mast, Carpenter 375mm



Comments
Nauli


WA
Australia
3872 days ago

So what was your take on the 105 Steve...and which was the best fin combo?
Snides


WA
Australia
3872 days ago
Really bad conditions to judge But initial feelings are the cl 34 Was slippery downwind and safe. But not enough lift across and into the wind In the full on chop, flatter water would be better. The 36carbon volt was as you would expect in the Conditions, better on the wind and still safe off the wind. Not sure if it was as quick. It also whistled around the (guessing) 25-30kn mark And went quite after that.
Slowboat


WA
Australia
3872 days ago

34 is too short for that board for cross wind sailing... try 36 or 38. When you want to go upwind/cross wind efficiently you need the fin centre of pressure in a sweet spot so that it balances torque on the board to counter heel pressure from those sailing angles. Too short a fin will put the pressure centre too close to the bottom of the board and the windward rail will dip and cause an increased loss of torque due to the cant (it will also suck the board onto the water). Compounding problems make good trim suddenly gone. Too long a fin and you are forced to put weight on the tail and adopt a more upright stance... which is unstable when you are powered up and have to sheet out.

My slalom fin designs have a much smaller tip than say, the vector. The vertical centre of pressure is sitting closer to the board for the fin size, so in that respect it actually feels shorter than 34cm compared to something else. But it makes up for it with efficiency and power. For cross wind/upwind sailing I recommend something a bit longer- but it will be very powerful. Yesterday I was running 38cm in my 112 (similar width to your RRD) for slalom angles and it was perfect. It did not feel too big even in the stronger stuff.
Nauli


WA
Australia
3871 days ago

^^ Nice sales pitch Chris....very scientific!

I use a Choco FB 36 in my 105....but I get a loss of torque due to the old cant sailing it!
paddymac


WA
Australia
3871 days ago

^^ Classic. Unfortunately I'm all torque which leaves me with too much cant
Snides


WA
Australia
3871 days ago

horses for courses--

(and as what the slowone said..)

my previous 102 (same dimensions) worked the best with a 34 talon (all points of sailing),

the reason i got the 34 clockwood.

the lockwood will be fine (awesome) for downwind speed which is why i got the board,

slalom racing across the wind is not something i do but if i do it will be with the 36.

As a smaller rider (short as well as lighter) i wont apply as much torque on the foil as bigger guys

even taller light guys...
Tomski


WA
Australia
3871 days ago

Great explanation Chris. Keep that stuff comingWink.